(half)HD-Vinyl 16/96 (EMI) Franz Liszt – “Dante” Symphony (Masur)

Reposted, now with FF links
Great works by Liszt and well played by the orchestra. It’s a nice switch from his usual piano compositions. Put this right up there with the other classical musical masters. Definitely buy this album – you won’t be disappointed.

# Composer: Franz Liszt
# Orchestra: Gewandhausorchester Leipzig
# Conductor: Kurt Masur
# Vinyl (1981)
# Number of Discs: 1
# Format: Flac
# Label: EMI
# DR-Analysis: DR 13
# ASIN CD: B000002SCL

# Size: 834 MB
# Scan: yes
# Server: FileFactory

I realized just now, almost 3 years after I ripped this, that it was made accidentally in 16bit/96kHz instead of 24bit/96kHz – and I don’t own the record anymore 🙁

The “Dante Symphony” is really not much of a symphony at all. I rather think of it as a tone poem — a work just as programmatic, really, as Richard Strauss’s programmatic “Alpine Symphony”. The first movement is intended to walk us through Dante’s Hell, right down the hairy back of Satan at the end, in the center of the world, before starting the ascent back up on the other side by climbing though Purgatory in the second movement.

Unfortunately, Liszt’s future son in law Richard Wagner convinced the composer not to carry through on his original intention to write a third movement for Heaven, arguing that conveying the wonders of heaven would be impossible for any earthly composer. Well, I would have liked to see Liszt try, and wish Wagner had kept his nose out of it, but there you have it. Instead of a third movement, there is a lovely 7.5 minute choral Magnificat at the end of the second movement, intended to express entrance into heaven.

Liszt took on a tough job here. How are you going to describe hell in music using the toolkit of 19th century high Romanticism? Answer: beautifully. And that’s just the problem. If hell sounds as nice as this, maybe it’s not such a bad place. There are some really lovely passages. Maybe the beauty of those passages makes sense — Dante spoke with a lot of people in hell who didn’t seem all that terrible, but who had committed sins that left them on the wrong side of the tracks after death. But not knowing specifically what a lilting melody in the middle of hell is supposed to be describing makes the music a bit confusing and hard to follow.

Purgatory starts out pretty beautifully, but I’m much more at a loss story-wise here. Like a lot of people, I had to read the Inferno in school, but never quite got around to Purgatorio. I have no clue about the story in this part of the piece, which would be another good reason to have the program spelled out a bit better. The music does sound spiritual. I associated much of it emotionally with a sense of monastic isolation and purification. The music has a sad and wistful, but still hopeful quality.

I’m not going to say this is one of Liszt’s greatest works, but surely a masterwork!

Analyzed folder: /96kLis_DanSy_Mas/96k Liszt – Dantesinfonie – Masur
DR        Peak        RMS        Filename
DR12        -0.92 dB     -17.85 dB     A1 Inferno – Matthias Eisenberg .wav
DR13        -1.41 dB     -20.02 dB     B1 Purgatorio – Matthias Eisenberg.wav
Number of files:    2
Official DR value:    DR13

Ripping Infos

  • RCM: Okki Nokki
  • TT: Clearaudio Champion Level II
  • Cartridge: Limited Edition Denon DL 103
  • Phono amp: Pro-Ject Phono Box II
  • Pre Amp: Unison Research Unico Pre (Tube)
  • Finals: Opera Consonance 9.9 Mono (Tube)
  • Speakers: Dali Helikon 400
  • Connections: MIT Terminator, Audioquest Emerald, Audioquest Quartz
  • Software: iZotope RX Advanced v2.02, Adobe Audition CS 5.5, Twisted Wave 1.9
  • Light de-Clicking with ClickRepair, significant clicks manually removing, no De-Noising

If You hear some clicks and pops here and there, Who cares? Id rather have a few light anomalies instead of destroying the music. Enjoy the music, not the ticks & pops.

  • DR-Analisys before converting to Flac
  • Converting Wave -> Flac: Twisted Wave 1.9
  • Artwork: Sony Alpha 350, Epson Perfection V750 Pro, Photoshop CS 5.5

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14 thoughts on “(half)HD-Vinyl 16/96 (EMI) Franz Liszt – “Dante” Symphony (Masur)

  1. Grazie mille. Ho l’edizione Erato su lp con la Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra ben diretta da Conlon, ma il suono e dell’orchestra e della registrazione non sono all’altezza di questo disco. Tutti i programmi che ho sul pc mi dicono 24 bit sia per i file flac sia per i wav, non capisco…

    • Si, i programmi riconoscono il 24bit, ma è un 16bit pompato…cioè, registrato con 16bit e salvato come 24 bit. Puoi capirlo semplicemente vedendo le proprietà del file: un vero 24/96 ha una bit/rate di 4608000, mentre questi 16bit salvati per sbaglio a 24bit hanno una bit/rate di 3072000. Un 16/44 ha una rata di 1411200

      Anche se i programmi ti dicono 24/96 è un 16/96. Questo è un vecchio rip e anni fa usavo salvare e offrire in formato wave. Poi l’altro giorno, prima di ricaricare ho convertito in flac e la differenza mi risultava poca, quando normamente un flac è dal 40 al 45% più piccolo. Invece mi dava si e no una differenza di 10%. Controllando per bene, le proprietà del wav originale mi dava appunto una rata di 3072000

      • Grazie per la spiegazione. Non ho pensato a fare un confronto tra i bitrate, in effetti è il modo più corretto di verificare la “ricchezza” del segnale.

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